All Turtles Podcast Episode 20: A Few Good Bots

DoNotPay is a chatbot that has helped people beat more than 500,000 parking tickets and now can help you get a lower airfare after you’ve booked a flight. We talk with the startup’s founder and CEO Josh Browder about also helping refugees apply for visas and his vision for a lawyer-free future. Phil Libin, Blaise Zerega, and guest host Cathy Dinas recap a trip to Japan, debate the portrayal of AI in the Netflix series Black Mirror, and consider whether hiring a PR firm early in a product’s lifecycle is really just, well, BS.


Show notes

Postcard from Japan (3:43)

Phil’s hotel room key in Osaka

Pocketalk translation device used by Phil and Cathy

Pocketalk, SourceNext Releases 50 Languages Translation Device

Pocketalk audio featured in All Turtles Podcast Episode 2 (skip to 6:55)

Conversation with Josh Browder, founder and CEO of DoNotPay (14:34) (company web site)

Josh Browder on the Daily Show with Trevor Noah: Disrupting the Legal System with Robots (video)

A new tool uses legal loopholes to get you cheaper flights by checking prices 17,000 times a day (Business Insider)

Phil’s refugee story (video)

Listener questions

Black Mirror — does it interest you? What AI shown in the series is most attainable or realistic? (36:00)

Black Mirror Season 4 Trailer (video)

Is hiring a PR firm bullshit early in the product’s life cycle? (42:17)

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